Welcome to the 257th episode of Self-Defense Gun Stories. We’re glad you found us if you’re well trained … and also if you’re one of millions of new gun owners who are hearing about armed defense for the first time. I’m Rob Morse and we are My friend and firearms instructor Ben Branam joined this week. How have you been, Ben?
Ben- Hi, Rob. I’m fine. I traveled and shot and enjoyed work and holidays. Training of church teams. What about you?
Rob- Like millions of other people, I traveled through Thanksgiving. I’m glad I’m home again where I can wear it. I’ve been on two radio shows, a podcast, and I’ve written an article about how common or rare it is to find hidden citizens.
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Ben- Here in the United States, we defend ourselves a thousand times a day with a firearm. Let’s look at some recent examples and see what we can learn. Links back to original news articles on our podcast website.
Our first story took place last week in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania.
Rob- First story- Are you armed when you leave home and drive at night?
It’s after midnight when you drop off some food at home. It’s all part of the job because you supply food for an online food delivery service. You get back in the car when three young men run up to you. Two of them have weapons in their hands. Your attackers are telling you to give up your money. You say the money is in the car. So they’ll start searching your car.
You have a license to wear from Pennsylvania. You’re wearing secret tonight. You will present your hidden firearm from under your coat and shoot your two armed attackers. They drop their weapons. The third robber runs away. You’re calling 911.
You put the gun in your holster and resign the police. The ambulance will transport your two attackers to the hospital. One has died and the other is in critical condition. The police are looking for their accomplice.
Many of the people in your neighborhood are Chinese immigrants. You are one of the few who carry a weapon. You give the police a video from your doorbell camera. You are not charged with a crime.
Ben, what did our defender do to save his life?
Ben- Tactical patience. Watch movies and want to draw against a drawn weapon.
Rob- How common is an attack like this?
Ben- About 40 percent of the attacks take place near our home. We feel safe there and most people disappoint their alertness and consciousness as they approach home.
Rob- Is there anything else you would like our students to do if they were in a similar situation?
Ben- Try to see it. These three boys just didn’t fall from the sky, but they came from somewhere. If you can see that it’s coming, maybe he could just open the door of his house and go inside.
Rob- Guide me through all the steps I have to go through before I can present a firearm from under a heavy winter coat.
Ben- gloves or no gloves? Clean all the coats and sweaters to get to your firearm, and then make sure it doesn’t get tangled when you push it towards the bad guys. It sounds simple until you get stuck. And then you have the rest of your life to find out. Exercising with an empty weapon is a way to learn it all.
Rob- Anything else?
Ben- That’s enough for now. Our second story took place in Spanaway, Washington.
Rob – Second Story – Are you armed at work tonight?
You work behind the counter in a cannabis store. It’s 9:30 at night when four or five men burst through the door. They have masks on their faces and hooded sweatshirts hiding their heads. Several of them are also armed with weapons. They tell everyone to back off while they catch grass from their cases and money from the cash register. You step back and grab the gun stored in the store. You shoot at two attackers who have weapons. Now the attackers are fleeing your store. You and the other store employees call 911. Put the gun down.
Police will find your attackers in the hospital. Two of them are arrested and charged with first-degree robbery. Police are searching for four other robbers.
Ben- Tactical patience here again. He waited for attention to turn. Shoot only the ones that needed to be shot, and then put the gun down before the police arrive. Everyone called 911.
Rob- As you once asked me, was our defender good or lucky?
This week’s theme is Ben-Tactical Patience and see it coming. I hope the good guy saw five or six guys ready to attack before they rushed through the door.
Rob- What does a security plan look like for a small “risky” business?
Ben-Keep a safe word, so when someone sees something, everyone can watch and listen. When one person goes to arms, everyone else needs a plan.
Rob- Why is it advantageous to have a hidden card when you are only “at risk” at work?
Ben- Gives you credentials in court and with the appropriate police officers. And generally, it will provide you with some training in your local laws.
Ben- Our third story became Oceanside, California.
Rob- First this message from my friends from FASTER Colorado.
Rob- Third story- Do you have a firearm nearby at night?
You hear the crashes and sounds of people in your house. You get out of bed and grab your gun. You will look into your home and see some intruders. At least one of them has a gun. You shoot at them and they shoot back. They’re running away from your home now. Stay in your house and call 911. Police were already heading for the area because your neighbors were reporting shots.
When the police arrive, put down your weapon. They’ll find one of your attackers at the scene. The ambulance declares him dead. Police have arrested five other robbers as they leave the neighborhood. One of them is taken to hospital with a gunshot wound. The attacker was recently convicted of armed assault and awaited sentencing. Your attackers are charged with first-degree robbery and felony murder.
You are not charged anything.
Ben- So it turned out better than expected. I’m glad to see aggression against the bad guys here. Sometimes patience is key, other times you go straight to it. Especially when you’re outnumbered, the element of surprise can win the fight.
Rob- Does a similar attack happen very often?
Ben- Yes, much more than anyone wants to think about. About a quarter of the attacks are at home. About half of it is at night. Most of them involve more than one attacker.
Rob- How will new gun owners learn how to store the firearm they want for armed defense?
Ben- This is the one you can ask at your local gun shop and get pretty good advice on a quick access safe. They all work. The safe will protect you from accidental discharge until you wake up completely, and will prevent anyone from sneaking into your room and taking them before you have a chance.
Rob- Our defender could have taken a few steps out of his bedroom door and been shot. How should new gun owners learn to defend themselves at home?
Ben- There are a lot of classes. The easiest part is to learn how to cover and hide and how to use them and then learn to shoot from them. Finally reprogram, you don’t have to be close. I tell my students that a greater distance is better.
Ben- Our fourth story took place in Ferndale, California.
Rob- Fourth story- Are you armed when you return home late at night?
You arrive home at about 9:15 at night. You will notice that your door is open and that things are out of place. You see strangers in your house. You pull out a gun and tell the young man to raise his hands. You’re calling 911.
The police arrive and convince you to take the weapon in your holster. Officers have arrested your intruder. He is accused of first-degree burglary. Officers said you did a very good job … on a 74-year-old woman.
Tag- No shots
Ben- I’m glad she had a gun and didn’t have to shoot it! That’s a win. These are the best results; no one was wounded, good or bad, and the criminal was arrested.
Rob- What should we do when we get home late at night and find someone in our house?
Ben-Alarm systems are great. They can alert you before you get home, and most of them now have cameras, you can look inside your house without having to go inside.
Rob- What do you do when you see someone?
Ben- If at all possible, call the police and park the car down the street, keeping it running and locked. Then wait for the police and be a good witness.
Rob- How hard is it to keep someone in front of a aimed weapon?
Ben- It can be tiring really fast. And what will you do if that person no longer wants to listen to you?
Rob- Is there anything else you’d like us to do if it happens to us?
Ben- Try not to enter the house. As this house owner walked through the front door, she drove our criminal into the house. This guy has decided not to fight, but when you drive the animal into a corner, he tends to fight. If you can, give the villain a chance to leave.
Rob- is closing this episode. Ben, thank you for helping us again. Where can we find out more about you?
Ben- I live in San Antonio and most of my classes are in central Texas, where I teach armed self-defense and church security. Check out my schedule and sign up for my lessons at Modern self-defense.com. You can also subscribe to my weekly podcast called Modern self-protection.
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